tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3229448159590274121.post7355516912096892896..comments2023-06-11T16:23:46.806+05:30Comments on The Big Bang: Searching for evidenceAdithyahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04458738282194241629noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3229448159590274121.post-66508239948563493712010-08-30T12:56:14.519+05:302010-08-30T12:56:14.519+05:30@Shishir - My apologies for this delay. Sajith has...<b>@Shishir</b> - My apologies for this delay. Sajith has covered most of my thoughts in his response so I dont want to repeat any of that. It is not my endeavor to compare religions and grade them according to the intensity of their barbarism. Neither am I trying to pitch that believers cease to be authority in academics merely because of their religious faith. <br /><br />It is my understanding that an atheist would not indulge in commenting on an issue without study and research, therefore a high school physics failed atheist, should/would refrain from debating on physics with a physics phd theist lest he can back it up with evidence.<br /><br />I agree with your first paragraph completely and may I add, <i>belief in god may not always make a person righteous or just</i> either. To me that is just an observation of human behavior and that aspect is devoid of belief.<br /><br />Coming back to the topic of religious barbarism, I egg you to rewind further into history from your present reference point of islam. Make an independent study of the east before the advent of the semitic religions. I can provide you with reliable references to Indian hindu dynasties slaughtering believers of faiths like buddhism.<br /><br />I am not equating atheism to universal truth. That is not how atheism is defined. Which leads me to rethink on your proclamation of being an atheist. As you so correctly point out, <i>'Some are more harmful - others less so'</i>, the understanding to take back is that the bottom line is they are all harmful.<br /><br /><b>@Janani</b> - I agree with you a 100%Adithyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04458738282194241629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3229448159590274121.post-77935962292295252002010-08-28T15:25:42.308+05:302010-08-28T15:25:42.308+05:30I am a Hafiz. I read the bible. I love the Gita.
...I am a Hafiz. I read the bible. I love the Gita.<br /><br />I am born a Muslim. I enjoy the nicotine. I love the wine<br /><br />I am none to judge but neither am i someone to blindly believe. <br /><br />History has their say. We have our life to speak of.<br /><br />Humanity came first, then came politics and then after that Religion.Gastro Malluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12543752389139414690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3229448159590274121.post-70283937957913846952010-06-15T19:30:18.498+05:302010-06-15T19:30:18.498+05:30the inconvenient truth!
Being a non-believer, I h...the inconvenient truth!<br /><br />Being a non-believer, I have always refuted topics like God and his miracles.<br /><br />But there is one thing that I do agree with a non-believer can be converted into a believer, but a believer can never turn a non-believer. Well, that is just my opinion, thoughjanani sampathhttp://lustforlifealways.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3229448159590274121.post-21203613315882462922010-06-15T11:49:28.987+05:302010-06-15T11:49:28.987+05:30@Shishir
You are suggesting that Adithya is a de...@Shishir <br /><br />You are suggesting that Adithya is a denier of evidence. That is incorrect.<br /><br />And you are conflating various issues. Disbelief in a personal god obviously does not automatically eliminate the need to improve the body of knowledge. That is what science does. Its a process of discovery as we know. And scientists like Dawkins are more serious about the god question than most religious people.<br /><br />How can you compare a scientist who has a PHD in physics to a novice in the same subject, atheist or not? That is a straw man.<br /><br />The same scientist if a believer must provide the evidence for his/her belief in a personal god and get it peer reviewed. The burden of proof is on this scientist.<br /><br />This is a project that requires empirical evidence. We are not talking about emotions or subjective experiences or truths as you call it.<br /><br />I agree that religions like the Abrahamic faiths are more dangerous than others, but that does not make any of the other eastern religions like Jainism, Buddhism (how it has been practiced as the founders have been made gods) or hindu beliefs benign. They are harmful none the less. I think you would agree.<br /><br />Here is a link which is useful reading.<br /><br />http://nirmukta.com/2009/05/11/hinduism-religion-culture-or-way-of-life/<br /><br /><br />SajithAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3229448159590274121.post-72936972516552351212010-06-15T04:37:49.440+05:302010-06-15T04:37:49.440+05:30As an atheist I find your defence of atheism fasci...As an atheist I find your defence of atheism fascinating. But may I caution you that disbelief in god may not always make a person righteous or just. For instance, an atheist (due to lack of knowledge) may have developed a false consciousness concerning history, or sociology, or politics, or geography and could thus contribute involuntarily to harming someone else.<br /><br />Disbelief in god does not eliminate the need to seek the truth on subjects where we lack knowledge.<br /><br />Sometimes a believer may be closer to the truth in specific cases than an atheist. A believer who has a Physics PhD may know more about superconductivity than an atheist who failed high school physics.<br /><br />For instance, I sense from your posts that you see all religions as equally evil. But the actual historical record shows otherwise.<br /><br />The coding of some religions has lead to far more barbarism than others. <br /><br />For instance, Islam actually justifies all manner of crimes - such as rape, murder, arson and slavery if the person harmed is an infidel or an apostate.<br /><br />So your assertion that no religion justifies rape is false. You have to read the Quran and the Hadith in detail to understand the political context of its morality.<br /><br />In Islamic morality, the expansion and spread of Islam, and strict adherence to the Quran take precedence over universal morality.<br /><br />The world is divided between those who accept the precepts of Islam and those who reject them. Thus, there is no immorality in oppressing or harming the enemies of Islam.<br /><br />For that reason, this discussion is a little too abstract. Buddhism and Jainism which preach non-violence can never cause harm in the way Islam can. Likewise, many Hindu philosophical systems only tolerate violence in cases of self-defence.<br /><br />So I would caution you from equating atheism with universal truth and all religions with evil. Some are more harmful - others less so.<br /><br />And there are many truths in the world. Some of those truth may be discovered by believers!Shishirhttp://india_resource.tripod.com/noreply@blogger.com